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Old 03-29-2007, 02:55 PM
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Exclamation How to Determine Real vs Counterfeit COH

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TAGS
- Authentic size tags have a silver or cellophane colored strip embedded with microstitching that says "Citizens of Humanity"
- Please note that some authentic older cuts/styles do not have microstitching
- The reverse side of the size tag on authentic older cuts print the mispelling "intruction" but newer cuts are spelled correctly (inStruction)
- Fabric tags sewn into the inside waistband should be attached smoothly and stitched in a clean manner
- Most fake fabric tags are wrinkled with sloppy stitching and perhaps fonts that seem 'off'
- Newer authentic cuts/styles have the larger care instruction tag in a satin type fabric
- Older authentic cuts/styles may have care instruction tags printed on a woven cotton twill type fabric with ridges
- Older authentic cuts/styles may have a size tag printed on a woven cotton twill type fabric




WASH
- Most fake COH have exaggerated distress fading at the front hips, similar to pencil eraser lines or "stripes" in high contrast
- Please be aware that some authentic washes do not photograph well and flash photography enhances the contrast therefore making them look fake
- If you think they're real but the hip whiskering looks too harsh, also check the inner thigh whiskering; the fade is very subtle & has a nice "ombre" effect
- Most fake COH have a grainy or rough appearance to the fabric, sometimes you may see vertical streaks throughout the fabric from a low quality weave




POCKETS
- The biggest indicator when comparing real vs. fake is the placement and shape of the pocket details
- Pay attention to starting point of the "h".Regarding the right back pocket, real stitching starts at or as close as possible to the upper left corner, with the
exception of some styles (ie: Siena, Emmanuelle, Wimbledon, Simone, etc)

- Pocket fabric on the inside of real jeans should be clean, not linty nor too wrinkled; the stitching should not be sloppy
- The tail end of authentic traditional "h" pocket styles usually end about a 1/3 of the length down from the top when examining the right back pocket
- Older authentic "h" pockets may have a wider "hill" on the "h"--I'm referring to the bump that make the 2nd half the "h" shape




OTHER
- Newer authentic cut/styles have rivet backs that say "cobrax original"
- Please note that some authentic older styles have a stylized "h" stamp on the back
- Older authentic cuts may also have a combination of "cobrax original" and the "h"
- There are only a handful of sellers on eBay that sell authentic denim on a regular basis
- Be cautious of sellers who only use stock pics in their auctions.Ask for pictures of actual items and/or tag pics.If they give you an excuse, stay away
- Sellers who have several of the same style with the same cut number and use the same pic for every auction are typically counterfeit






Bianca has a great site to reference for fake cut numbers, though it hasn't been updated in a while

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Old 04-01-2007, 12:57 AM
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EXAMPLES OF SLOPPY FAKE TAGS


Tag is very wrinkled



Top of tag is cut off on 1st; font has terrible print quality on 2nd; phrase is placed wrong on 3rd



The small size tag is attached unevenly



Print is not clear, font is wrong




EXAMPLES OF NASTY FAKE WASHES


Streaky and badly applied



Looks like clawmarks



Eraser streaks



Grainy rough poor quality material



Zebra stripes and strange patches





EXAMPLES OF ODD FAKE POCKETS


Shape curves placement all wrong



Too thin, placement is off, pockets wrong shape and too big



Elongated and strange colors



Wrong colors, shape is elongated, placement off



Placed too high, pocket is wrong shape



Everything is in the wrong place with the pocket stitching


Just plain ugly, wrong colors, stitching is wrong, style doesn't exist



Pocket lining is wrinkled and linty with sloppy stitching





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Old 06-17-2007, 07:28 PM
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EXAMPLES OF REAL TAGS

There are approximately 6 types of authentic size tags that I am aware of.
Some say "Citizens of Humanity" and some say "Security"
Some have no visible microstitching and look like tinsel.


OLD STYLE TAG, REAL



OLD STYLE TAG, REAL



OLD STYLE TAG, REAL



OLD STYLE TAG, REAL




SILVER CELLOPHANE, REAL


SILVER CELLOPHANE, REAL


SILVER CELLOPHANE, REAL




CLEAR CELLOPHANE, REAL


CLEAR CELLOPHANE, REAL


CLEAR CELLOPHANE, REAL




REAL, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW CLEAR THE MICROSTITCHING PRINT IS:

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